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« on: May 07, 2009, 12:56:09 AM »

Hello All - it's been some time since my last post, I hope this finds each of you well.

My point of discussion today relates to my newborn's sleep schedule.  I'm somewhat at odds with my wife over this subject, and am at a loss as to how to proceed.

My baby girl just turned seven months old this past weekend.  Her sleep schedule is the same today as it was at seven hours old.  Every two hours at night, she wakes up in need of mother's milk.  During the day she doesn't care much for food - at least not on any regular schedule.  My wife believes we should just feed her on her schedule, and let the situation work itself out ~ believing that soon a regular schedule will work itself out.  I am of the belief that we must train her to sleep through the night by weening her from this schedule, regardless of her tantrums.

Now - some clarifications on my approach:  1) My stand with my wife is, and has been, this is one of those decisions we must agree on before implementing any changes (I do not force the issue); 2) I do not let my daughter cry alone in a dark room for hours on end (it's too late now anyway - she's mobile).  Rather, I wait for my wife to tire of the situation and agree a change is needed, and when I'm in charge of sleep time I let our daughter cry for a while, then pick her up and soothe her - then lay her back down (repeat as necessary - but under no circumstances will I feed her).  Of course, my wife steps in after 20 minutes to 'Save the Day' .... the cycle continues and all my 'work' is reset.

At a loss.  Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2009, 10:59:05 AM »

I think that your pediatrician will tell you that her stomach should be big enough to not eat every two hours... however, one needs to be sure that she isn't hungry.  It's kind of the old adage... if she's been fed, her diaper is clean then she is fine -- crying or not.

In my experience (3 babies -- and I did the majority of the feeding) most of the time, a little training and a little feeding go a long way... After 7 months she should be going longer between feedings then 2 hours.  So, maybe she needs to have a set feeding schedule during the day which will carry over into the night.  So, in essence you are training her to eat every 3-5 hours during the day and that will leave her satiated right before bed.  And at night she won't feel the hunger and will sleep a bit longer and as time goes on it will expand in time as she gets better waking eating habits.  She should be coming up on introduction of mushy foods into her diet soon, that will help immensely when you hit that stage.
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2009, 10:14:47 PM »

Thanks, Brew27:

Mushy foods began around five months, and now she's fussy about anything that doesn't require chewing or have flavor.  Loves salmon, beef, pork - etc.  She never batted an eye on her sleep schedule (it didn't change a bit).  The pediatrician told us that a little tough love will go a long way ... two months ago ...

I know there will be many decisions that my wife and I both must agree on, so even if I have to yield now, it'll serve me well in the future on things I don't want for our daughter - but, isn't a regular sleep schedule healthy for the baby?

This is my wife's second child, so she is no beginner.  But her first slept through the night after solid (mushy) foods were introduced.  Now she's just counting on mother nature figuring it out.  I'm not ALL about the tough love, but I have real problems with blind love.  There are character traits in her first that I can see are a result of this approach and I don't want them for our (her) second.

I dunno?!  Anyway, thanks for the reply.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2009, 01:47:06 AM »

For those that are following this string, and/or find themselves in a similar situation ... she started sleeping through the night about four days ago.  She self-weened from the nipple at about 7.5 months, and promptly doubled her pre-bedtime feedings to 8+oz of formula.  11 or so hours per night since ...

So ... I humbly stand corrected.  The wife was right ... (again).

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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 12:14:34 AM »

Thanks, Brew27:

Mushy foods began around five months, and now she's fussy about anything that doesn't require chewing or have flavor.  Loves salmon, beef, pork - etc.  She never batted an eye on her sleep schedule (it didn't change a bit).  The pediatrician told us that a little tough love will go a long way ... two months ago ...

I know there will be many decisions that my wife and I both must agree on, so even if I have to yield now, it'll serve me well in the future on things I don't want for our daughter - but, isn't a regular sleep schedule healthy for the baby?

This is my wife's second child, so she is no beginner.  But her first slept through the night after solid (mushy) foods were introduced.  Now she's just counting on mother nature figuring it out.  I'm not ALL about the tough love, but I have real problems with blind love.  There are character traits in her first that I can see are a result of this approach and I don't want them for our (her) second.

I dunno?!  Anyway, thanks for the reply.

There's no science nor is there a manual for raising a baby... a lot of it is knowing that your child is an individual and what suits the individual.  If you take the individuals needs and wants and factor in what you and your wife want to teach the child you can come up with actions that are based on how you want to raise your little one.  Things like sleep habits and feeding schedules are huge for an infant.  On one hand your must make sure they are well fed and well loved... no doubt.  But on the other hand you don't want to teach them early on that mommy and daddy come running every time they let out a howl of displeasure.  I know that, for me, I learned quickly the different between the "I'm hungry" cry, the "I'm tired" cry, the "I'm lonely" cry and the "I'm mad at you" cry.  If you can distinguish between these four basic crying fits it will go a long way to a more peaceful home as the little one gets not so little.  And experience counts for a lot when dealing with little ones.  But it's not everything.  The stronger your bond with your baby, the better you'll be able to know what they want and encourage them in the right direction.  A parent who has raised four children poorly is not in a better position to be a parent than one who is on number one.

And it sounds like she has a good healthy appetite and love for food -- which is awesome!  Two out of three of mine were like that... and to be honest, I think the one that isn't was too spoiled as a baby with eating only what he wanted to eat.  My, now, ex-wife would keep putting food in front of him until he chose what he wanted instead of just putting the cheerios down and that's what's for eatin'... Smiley

It's great to hear she's sleeping through the night now!
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